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  • Yes, it is a war. Almost all demons they meet (and kill) are soldiers. But Frieren’s philosophy is one of total annihilation. She wants to kill all demons, no matter if they’ve killed or not.

    The problem is that the author seems to want to make this philosophy the morally just one in universe while at the same time giving demons the ability to chose if they want to kill or not. I’m more irritated at the author for not thinking things through.



  • Thank you, I really apriciate that you see where I’m coming from :3

    While I still think that Frieren is too extreme in her beliefs, I do see where you’re coming from. I think my main issue comes from the fact that the author seems to want to make her philosophy justified but at the same time giving the demons too much autonomy when it comes to their need of hunting humans.

    I don’t want to spoil anything as I want you to enjoy the story, but I would be really interest what your thoughts are on Macht when the next season comes out :3


  • I don’t want to campare her with the nazis, just that she personally wants a genocide (the extermination of all demons regardless if they are evil or not).

    Macht abstained from killing humans for decades, so it’s not like this is a biological need, it’s something they choos. So by this logic there can be demons who doesn’t want to kill at all. If Frieren encountered such a demon she would not hesitate to murder them, even if they are more innocent than herself.



  • Thank you, that’s a very nice writeup. I agree with you that the author probably isn’t thinking as hard as, for example Tolkien did with his orcs. However, I wouldn’t compare the demons in Frieren to indigenous people in america. It’s clear that many demons are really violent, however, even if a lot, or even a majority, of demons are evil, we can’t condem their entire race.




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